Crafting Cool: Morgan Spector’s Journey from behind the bullet dance to The Gilded Age

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The way Morgan Spector arrived with the role of George Russell may seem traditional. Especially considering his time studying acting at Reed College, perfecting his presence at the American Conservatory Theatre, or cutting his teeth on off-Broadway productions. However, his journey is anything but routine because Spector was unsure he was right for the role. But, anyone who watches HBO’s The Gilded Age will feel that Spector embodies the ferocity of an industrialist while displaying tenderness with his family.

From our conversation with Spector, it is evident why he is capable of bringing so much range to George Russell. Spector is a passionate man, and with that comes experience and a consideration for his craft. His eyes beam when he talks about the cast and the friendships they have developed. He is quick to appreciate his life when he compares it against the thousands of New York actors that haven’t gotten their break. More importantly, he is devoted to finding the character that Julian Fellowes has imagined during America’s industrial revolution.

As our conversation winds down, we get a deeper look at Spector as he speaks about the recent Screen Actors’ Guild (SAG) strike. Spector may look like George Russell, the union-busting capitalist, but he is far from it. He understands the power of unions and the importance of giving workers their rights. Spector, like George Russell, is a man of many faces.

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PETER C. YEH — First off, thank you for one of the best death scenes in HBO history. Frank Capone coming to his brother, Al Capone’s aid in Boardwalk Empire is such a memorable scene. You also have a menacing Nelson slowly pacing in, and finally, Frank is met with a fury of shotgun shells. The sequence of shots just brought so much suspense. It must have been a rollercoaster of emotions learning of your character’s demise, but also rewarding to see such a dramatic sendoff. How was that day of shooting for you?

MORGAN SPECTOR — Well, it was two days. And, it was really fun. I mean, that scene you mentioned, and I think there’s a similar scene in The Godfather. And there were a couple of great assassination scenes that were really an inspiration for that specific death scene. The whole riot scene took over two days. I think we shot that in one direction, too. We shot in one direction one day, and in the other direction the other day. We, literally, did it twice. So, my character has this overcoat. It had like eight gallons of blood inside the blood packs, and there were like 60 squibs, or something like that built into this heavy overcoat. And we only had two coats. So we had to make sure this scene was done perfectly. TWICE! And remember this is the riot scene so there are like hundreds of people around. All wearing wool suits, coats, jackets in this huge open space. And I’m like if I blow this, it’s like, I’m failing everyone because everyone is working so hard to make this work. So yeah, it was tense. It was fun. It was really one of those days where you’re just like, this is a crazy amazing job because you like getting to do that bullet dance with the squibs blowing up and blood everywhere. It was … a thrill!

PETER — You had a very traditional route to movie, television, and stage. Going to Reed College, and then perfecting your craft in San Francisco at the American Conservatory Theater. With how social media can launch, define, and end careers. Would you do anything differently?

MORGAN — Honestly, I don’t think I would have had the confidence to be an actor that way. If I hadn’t done all of that training, then I am not sure I would have the confidence in my skills. I think that I needed the sort of imprimatur of those various institutions to sort of believe in myself. I am glad I did this homework.

Also, I worked in many restaurants before I started being able to make a living as an actor. And quite often, especially in New York, you meet some older people that have been grinding for so long. And, you can tell that they were probably pretty good. But, they haven’t had that break because acting is just REALLY hard. So, there were reminders all the time to really take this craft seriously.

I think social media can definitely open some doors, and that’s great for them. But, for me, I needed to study acting in order to sort of give myself some sense of substantive confidence.

PETER — Since you’ve been in movies, television, and theater, is there a medium you prefer over the other?

MORGAN — I mean, I love theater, and in a certain way still like the stage the most. It’s the actor’s medium. You do all the rehearsals, put in all that work, and it all comes together. But, at the end of that process, they give it to the actor and allow them that freedom and control when they hit the stage.

While in TV and film, you do your work. And then somebody takes that work, and they go and edit it, and turn it into the story that they want to tell.

There’s a kind of immediacy to doing theater that you really can’t find anywhere else. But, at the same time, I have learned to love acting for the camera.

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“I love theater, and in a certain way still like the stage the most. It’s the actor’s medium. You do all the rehearsals, put in all that work, and it all comes together. But, at the end of that process, they give it to the actor and allow them that freedom and control when they hit the stage.”

PETER — The Gilded Age is a period drama from Julian Fellowes. Did you have any expectations, especially because of Fellowes’ pedigree from Downton Abbey?

MORGAN — Um, yeah, well, I mean, before I got the role, I had the expectation that I wouldn’t get the job. There’s just no way. There’s no way I can exist in this world. I’m like this sort of lump from Bulgaria, and I don’t know how I can fit into, you know, Lord Fellows universe.

However, once I got the role, I found that I really enjoyed this technical challenge that comes with this style of performance. You have to be able to handle his language and the trappings of that period with lightness, ease, and warmth.

And, as I got into the material, I realized that the writing really wants you to bring as much of yourself to each scene. Since there isn’t much backstory, it is up to the actor to convey these small details to tell the story. His writing is quite generous to an actor, and it was a wonderful discovery.

PETER — Period pieces are known to have exhaustively long shooting schedules so studios can save some money by keeping the production sets up. Was that the case here, and did you ever blend the early 20th century with the modern era?

MORGAN — No, because, again, Julian’s writing is so specific to the era that there isn’t a way to deliver it in a kind of 2023 modality. Season one was shot in the Fall of 2020, and we were in the midst of COVID and COVID protocols. We were constantly testing. We did most of the season in hermetically sealed conditions, and that really helped us stay tightly on schedule. The hours were long, they were brutal, but it all worked. I did feel bad for the ladies because they were in their tight corsets throughout the day. For Season two, COVID protocols were still in place, but the world was open, and there were massive delays because people were getting COVID. I was out for ten days with COVID, and that was challenging. But, we had one of the best crews in New York. We could not have asked for better talent on any level. We were incredibly lucky to have an amazing crew to work on such an incredibly expansive and beautiful set.

PETER — Production values for television have equaled or exceeded feature films, and viewed as the preferred medium for dramas. How do you feel television helps the storytelling experience here?

MORGAN — Yeah, I mean, the nice thing about these long-serialized stories is that, you know, I think I’ve come to see films really as poems. Every single moment in a film carries a lot of weight. In well-made films, there’s no repetition or redundancy. You learn something about the narrative and the character in a single instance, informing your interpretation of the rest of the story. With TV, it’s more like prose. You get to see characters in more banal situations, observing incremental transformations over time. It’s a longer-term experience, allowing characters to change gradually.

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PETER — Right, I think you hit it on the nose. Television allows for a pacing process, which works well for a series like The Gilded Age, resembling an old Russian novel with a large cast. How is your relationship with such an extensive cast, and have you made any good friends?

MORGAN — Yeah, I have made good friends. We were doing press all day with six of us today—Louisa, Christine, Cynthia, Carrie, and I—and I really liked these people. There’s a great time hanging out all day. The broader cast, given our separate stages in Long Island and Queens, doesn’t interact as much during the season.

Still, I love this group of people. Everyone on our show being a theatre actor first brings a no-nonsense approach to work, creating a sense of ensemble on set, making work a pleasure. The best part is that there are no egos from a cast of acclaimed and celebrated actors.

PETER — Downton Abbey and The Gilded Age have portrayed social struggles well, especially focusing on Bertha’s struggles, which are more evident. What do you think George’s real conflicts with class are?

MORGAN — I’m not sure George has conflicts with social status. In this period, the struggle for status was more prominent for women. George pursues material power and wealth effectively, indifferent to social customs. He cares about class because Bertha does, sharing her priorities. It matters to him for her sake, not for its own sake.

PETER — If I may ask, do you think, as the actor playing the character, you have any underlying opinions about George’s perspective?

MORGAN — No, I don’t. I think George doesn’t care about social norms. He’s focused on accumulating wealth, and that’s how he defines success. His priorities align with Bertha’s, but social status, for its own sake, doesn’t matter to him.

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PETER — George is seen as ruthless, especially with the aldermen, but also shows humanity, standing by Monsieur Baudin when Baudin was caught lying about his experience, name, and origin. What is it about George that makes him mysterious to the audience?

MORGAN — George has a basic duality—ruthlessness with enemies and business adversaries and gentleness and love with family and loved ones. You don’t know which side of George you’ll get in a given situation, making the character intriguing. But, in this case, Baudin is seen as a member of George’s family, and he exercises some latitude.

PETER — Downton Abbey had a feature film. Would you want the same fate for The Gilded Age?

MORGAN — Sure, anytime we get this cast together for a job, I’m in. I like these people. Season one set the stage, and season two went gangbusters. Now that we’ve established the world, we can tell more interesting stories.

PETER — The Gilded Age showcases elaborate galas and ballrooms. What is your favorite food from that period, and what is your favorite food now?

MORGAN — Maybe oysters from that period. For now, I like to grill grass-fed ribeye in the summertime. A good rub on it makes me happy.

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“Honestly, I don’t think I would have had the confidence to be an actor that way. If I hadn’t done all of that training, then I am not sure I would have the confidence in my skills. I think that I needed the sort of imprimatur of those various institutions to sort of believe in myself. I am glad I did this homework.”

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PETER — The long Screen Actors’ Guild (SAG) strike is over. Are you looking forward to filming, or do you feel there’s more fighting to be done?

MORGAN — It’s been bruising and difficult for everyone. We got the best deal we could have, and it’s time to go back to work. The industry has changed, and we need to figure out how to make it function. If there’s more fighting, we’ll come back to it.

PETER — The strike’s topic included artificial intelligence. How do you feel it can benefit you as an actor, and how can it harm you?

MORGAN — I don’t see much benefit personally. AI might take away work in areas like audiobooks where there isn’t a union contract. It could take money from human pockets and put it in the hands of companies. The broader question is how we organize ourselves as a society, ensuring human beings can have thriving existences in an AI-driven world.

PETER — our thoughts on the strike and its success against powerful entities like Netflix?

MORGAN — Strikes have tremendous power and solidarity, gaining public support in a moment where perception of unionized labor is positive. The question is beyond any individual union—a collective responsibility for a thriving existence in an AI-driven world. This conversation will likely continue over the next few decades.

PETER — Thank you for your time, and we really appreciate your perspective on the SAG strike, along with the need for more union membership.

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9 Comments

  • Pauline Rekatas

    The Guilded Age is Mezmerizing ! There table a second of boredom ! Thank you for a magnificent series! It has added excitement to my life! I am looking forward to watching its return!

  • Pauline Rekatas

    The Guilded Age is mezmerizing!

  • Spencer Taylor

    Spector does an outstanding job on The Gilded Age, making maximum impact in every scene portraying the duality of a complex character, that’s at once a tycoon and a humanist. While Fellows’ scripts are intricately woven, as Spector points out in the article, there is little backstory to use. I don’t believe any other actor could do a better job with Mr. Russell, and I expect we’ll be seeing a lot of Spector in the future.

  • Jill Gonzales

    So happy that me and my husband finally agree on some tv shows teehee! All because of this wonderful actor! You are amazing!

  • Gail Hardy

    I am excited watching Gilded Age and its wonderful cast. The scenes are beautiful and the different characters are wonderful. I love how depictions of that time framed is portrayed, but the reality is that nothing is new under the sun. I’m looking forward to seeing season three.

  • Kelly Neth

    I am absolutely love the attention to detail that they put in the show along with the costumes, George Russell’s my favorite, and I cannot wait for season 3 to come on

  • Michael lamb

    Come on HBO October you are out of your minds. We want it now

  • Lucy

    The way George Russell is portrayed by Morgan is breathtaking. He carries himself so realistically that it adds to unforgettable moments in every scene he’s in. It’s killing me to wait for S3!

  • Narvelan Coleman

    Trying to patiently wait for Season Three. But, until then I am binge re-watching Seasons 1 & 2….over and over again. Morgan Spector is absolutely mesmerizing as George Russell! My goodness…I vacillate between liking him…and strongly disliking him! Now… Carrie Coon, as his wife Bertha…I CAN’T STAND HER; and I couldn’t stand that Raikes guy; who turned out to be an absolute…RAKE!!😂 I just hope Season Three, will bring some retribution for Marion, Oscar and Gladys!

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